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Maayong pag-abot![usba ang wikitext]

Maayong pag-abot sa Sinugboanong Wikipedya! Unta magmabungahon ang imong pagpasakop ning atong katilingban! Alang mahibaw-an nimo ang mga puydeng buhaton dinhi, adtoa ang panid sa introduksyon ug ang panid sa pagtampo. Adtoa sab ang giya unsaon pagsugod og bag-ong panid. Alang sa mga mensahe sa komunidad, adtoa ang Tubaan. Niay among sugyot nga sulatonong mga artikulo.
Jordz 06:42, 27 Marso 2009 (UTC)

How do you create a bot?[usba ang wikitext]

Hi Lsj, I'm JinJian. Most of my edits are made in Waray-Waray Wikipedia and I'm an administrator there. In case you don't know, the Warays are in the islands just across the waters of Cebu to the northeast. Waray-waray and Cebuano have much in common than you probably would think.

How did you create your bot? Did you write the source code yourself? I wish to have a bot for creating some new articles, adding templates and for doing some repetitive tasks for the Waray-waray wikipedia. I would appreciate if you could help me on this. Thanks --JinJian (talk) 22:21, 1 Enero 2013 (UTC)

Hi JinJian, good to hear from you. Yes, I know that Cebuano and Waray-Waray are closely related languages. Probably a botcode developed for Cebuano would be easily convertible to Waray-Waray.
There are several different ways of creating a bot, depending on what you want to do. The bot is basically a small computer program running on your computer. Inside the program, you call functions for accessing the wiki and doing the edits you want to do. Ready-made programs exist for simple standard tasks like replacing one word with another in the text, or moving articles in one category to another. For more complicated tasks, you need to write your own source code, like I do. I'm using a framework called DotNetWikiBot which can be downloaded here. How much programming experience do you have? DotNetWikiBot is written in C#, but should work with any programming language within Microsoft Visual Studio. I can send you a small example of source code to create articles, if you like. Lsj (talk) 22:43, 1 Enero 2013 (UTC)
Here's a code example: sv:Wikipedia:Projekt DotNetWikiBot Framework/Lsjbot/CebuanoElements. It's the code I used yesterday to make articles about chemical elements. Lsj (talk) 22:58, 1 Enero 2013 (UTC)
Thank you very much for the tip. I'm a graduating student of Diploma in computer science at UPOU. While I have some knowledge in programming, I'm not that proficient yet. I would appreciate if you could send me some source code. I'm going to study them and hopefully make my own bot in the future. You may email them at:jinjian0604@yahoo.com. Thank you again and Happy New Year :) --JinJian (talk) 00:02, 3 Enero 2013 (UTC)
The link I gave you above, sv:Wikipedia:Projekt DotNetWikiBot Framework/Lsjbot/CebuanoElements, is source code. Lsj (talk) 11:09, 3 Enero 2013 (UTC)

Just a random comment from a passer-by on this wiki[usba ang wikitext]

Hello, Lsj. I don't speak Cebuano or anything, but I saw you were running a bot here and were unhappy that you were receiving no comments on it. Personally, I think the content it has created looks good, but I haven't checked every page (just a few) and I don't speak the language. Has a Cebuano speaker (perhaps your wife) checked some of the pages? PiRSquared17 (talk) 05:33, 21 Enero 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments. Yes, both my wife and another native speaker have checked the language of the bot-created articles, so it should be ok. In parallel, I am also creating the same articles on svwp, in my own native language. Now I just hope to find somebody who can grant a bot flag to Lsjbot on cebwp - as you probably noticed, Recent Changes are totally flooded. Lsj (talk) 07:30, 21 Enero 2013 (UTC)
You could try m:SRB, but they'll want to see a discussion (on Wikipedia:Tubaan). I'd much rather have it with a bot flag if possible. PiRSquared17 (talk) 13:10, 21 Enero 2013 (UTC)
Another bot request was approved after a week with no objections: https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steward_requests/Bot_status&oldid=5080308#Innocent_bot.40wikidata Do you think yours could be? PiRSquared17 (talk) 13:12, 21 Enero 2013 (UTC)
I agree this should really be done with a bot flag - that's why I applied for a flag more than a month ago. Cebwp does have a local bureaucrat, Gumagamit:Jordz, who is at least occasionally active, and who is aware of what I'm doing (see here). Hopefully Jordz can provide Lsjbot with a bot flag within the near future. Otherwise I might try on meta. But it's difficult to show them a discussion on Wikipedia:Tubaan when hardly anybody is active there... Lsj (talk) 13:45, 21 Enero 2013 (UTC)
Got bot flag now, thanx to Jordz. Lsj (talk) 08:28, 23 Enero 2013 (UTC)

Greetings Lsj![usba ang wikitext]

Thanks for taking care of the spams, and although I dont speak Cebuano it looks like you and your bot are doing a terrific job creating those articles about species of plants and animals, again Greetings and well done!--Lam-ang (talk) 16:08, 23 Enero 2013 (UTC)

Cebuano Wikipedia[usba ang wikitext]

Hi Lsj, thanks for helping Cebuano Wikipedia. I hope you may help this version get 100,000 articles and 42th place those got 100,000. Chers!--Aplikasi (talk) 14:29, 31 Enero 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your supportive message. I expect we will reach 100,000 on Feb 2 - I'm adding about 10,000 articles per day now, and will continue like that for quite a while. Lsj (talk) 14:40, 31 Enero 2013 (UTC)
Congratulations, you have made many articles. I target this version will get in 36th place in list of wikipedias on Feb 15.--Aplikasi (talk) 14:43, 31 Enero 2013 (UTC)
How many articles that ceb wiki will had? In more 200K or 300K?--Aplikasi (talk) 14:49, 31 Enero 2013 (UTC)
Well... I have about 1,000,000 articles in the pipeline. But it will likely take a year or so to add all of them, even at full bot speed. Lsj (talk) 15:00, 31 Enero 2013 (UTC)
Hi, you are the best because create many articles in these wikipedias, but likely about all pages except articles are very less especially talk pages, redirects, templates and so on. I recommend anyone who is fluent in the language to help create a site that is not a plan to allow more total non-article from the article. Thank you for helping this wikipedia. Greetings!--Aplikasi (talk) 14:25, 1 Pebrero 2013 (UTC)
As far as statistics is concerned, the bot creates about as many non-articles as articles. The most recent batch (annelid worms, ulod nga singsing) contained 14,000 articles, 2,000 categories, 7,000+ redirects, and 3,000 talk pages. But of course there is not much discussion on those talk pages, the bot uses the talk page of an article when something in the article requires a comment.
But apart from that, I fully agree that it would be great to have more humans cebuano speakers active here. I do think the bot activity actually helps a bit there, as I have noticed more human edits since I started running the bot at full speed. Possibly the massive influx of articles draws some attention? Lsj (talk) 14:52, 1 Pebrero 2013 (UTC)
Maybe, but before these Waray-Waray,Buginese,Kazakh and Uzbek have already do like that but not many people at there, there are only a few active user. May I know how you do a bot at full speed?--Aplikasi (talk) 16:04, 1 Pebrero 2013 (UTC)

Congratulations because got 100,000 articles. I think you should be an administrator in this wikipedia version.--Aplikasi (talk) 13:51, 2 Pebrero 2013 (UTC)

Well, I applied for administrator at Wikipedia:Mga hangyo nga mahimong tigdumala a few days ago, but no reaction there so far. Lsj (talk) 15:36, 2 Pebrero 2013 (UTC)
Concerning your earlier question about how I do my bot, you can find the botcode here and here. It's a C# program running with the DotNetWikiBot framework. "Full speed" refers to the maximum permitted speed for Wikipedia bots, around 10 edits per minute. Lsj (talk) 19:24, 2 Pebrero 2013 (UTC)
I've just posted a note endorsing your application/self-nomination as one of the administrators. --Harvzs (talk) 22:18, 2 Pebrero 2013 (UTC)
Congratulations on your 100,000th article. Why don't you do the same for Waray wikipedia? I'm inviting you to do that. It only needs minor adjustment from that you have entered in Cebuano Wikipedia. For example: Gihulagway would probably be Ginhulagway in Waray-Waray; Ulod nga singsing is also ulod nga singsing in waray; Paghimo ni bot would be Paghimo han bot in Waray. I and Harvzs are both administrators there. --JinJian (talk) 02:04, 3 Pebrero 2013 (UTC)
Thank you. I will be happy to do the same for Waray, if I can get help with translation. Especially the names of animals will need a bit of work. I will post a list of the translations needed. Lsj (talk) 06:28, 3 Pebrero 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for helping us. The Waray people would be grateful to you. Of course I can assist you with the translations. I also have a friend who is a Waray lexicographer and orthographer in case we need professional help. The official waray community email address given by the Wikimedia Philippines to us is waray@wikimedia.org.ph; I am handling that email address. You may also send the list of translations needed there. --JinJian (talk) 07:43, 3 Pebrero 2013 (UTC)
OK, I mailed the translations needed to waray@wikimedia.org.ph. Will be great if we can get this species project running also on waray wikipedia. Lsj (talk) 09:23, 3 Pebrero 2013 (UTC)
Besides Cebuano and Waray-Waray, you may help us in Malay Wikipedia about living because there if only a few about living. I will post you the translation. I hope you may help Malay Wikipedia. Your contribution is very much appreciated in the Malay Wikipedia. Because I see the articles about living is very important to expose the reader about life so that they can know all kinds of marine life and can appreciate the marine life.--Aplikasi (talk) 06:06, 5 Pebrero 2013 (UTC)
I'll be happy to help also in Malay. As I said above, I sent the files that need translation to JinJian for waray. If you can give me an email address (or send it to me with wikimail if you don't want to post it), I will mail the same files to you, with translation instructions. Lsj (talk) 07:08, 5 Pebrero 2013 (UTC)

Oj[usba ang wikitext]

Det var alltså ingen slump att du valde filipinsk geografi som första stora botprojekt? :) -- Lavallen (talk) 17:51, 1 Pebrero 2013 (UTC)

Ingen slump alls. Det här är min frus modersmål. Lsj (talk) 18:07, 1 Pebrero 2013 (UTC)
Du verkar ha det lugnare här i alla fall, inte lika många som provoceras av att robotar kan skapa artiklar! -- Lavallen (talk) 18:14, 1 Pebrero 2013 (UTC)
Här är problemet snarare att det var svårt att få någon respons alls på Wikipedia:Tubaan ("Bybrunnen") :D Men en del inlägg hemma på WP:BB gör mig riktigt ledsen, och jag har ibland känt mig frestad att lägga ner på svwp och bara skapa artiklar här på cebwp. Lsj (talk) 19:01, 1 Pebrero 2013 (UTC)
Jadu, Tubaan såg mest ut som en tummelplats för wmf's spambotar! -- Lavallen (talk) 09:54, 2 Pebrero 2013 (UTC)

Hello[usba ang wikitext]

Hi, makatabang sa paghimo niini nga artikulo: Canariomys bravoi. Tenerife giant rat.-- 14:30, 19 Mayo 2013 (UTC)

The bot code that is creating species articles is taking its input from a database containing only living species. Canariomys bravoi is not included. Possibly in the future I will rewrite the bot code to handle also extinct species, but that will take a while. Lsj (talk) 03:16, 22 Mayo 2013 (UTC)

False statistics[usba ang wikitext]

Hello! What sense is in bot-making of thousands poor and brief stubs? Who will read them? Besides those semi-stubs break official statistics. Thanks. --Bulakhovskyi (talk) 18:07, 10 Hulyo 2013 (UTC)

Cebwp didn't even have "poor and brief stubs" before, even about a lot of common animals that people are likely to search for and read about. Which is better when somebody is searching for info about e.g. some bird that they have seen - to find a bot-made stub, with correct basic data, iw-links and sources, or to find nothing?
As for statistics, I don't really care. The purpose of Wikipedia is not to produce statistics. The purpose of Wikipedia is to create "a world in which every single person on the planet is given free access to the sum of all human knowledge". I contribute to that purpose to the best of my ability. Lsj (talk) 20:26, 10 Hulyo 2013 (UTC)

Terms for the species template[usba ang wikitext]

Hi Lsj, thanks for heavily contributing here in cebwp. I would like to request some changes for the terms used in the information template:

  1. Pangklaseklase sa syensya -> Siyentipiko nga klasipikasyon
  2. Ngalan sa syensya -> Siyentipikong ngalan

Salamat! Jordz (talk) 09:44, 5 Agosto 2013 (UTC)

Sure, I can fix that. Thank you for correcting my non-native attempts at Cebuano :) Lsj (talk) 09:55, 5 Agosto 2013 (UTC)

Hello I am sent you email. --Kolega2357 (talk) 11:04, 15 Hulyo 2014 (UTC)

Grattis[usba ang wikitext]

Gratulationer till ceb.wikipedia för en miljon artiklar. Jag upptäckte Wikipedia:Anunsyo, och tänkte att du kanske hade information som skulle kunna passa där. Boivie (talk) 12:35, 16 Hulyo 2014 (UTC)

Ja, nu såg jag att du samlar den informationen på Gumagamit:Lsjbot/Statistik. Boivie (talk) 12:38, 16 Hulyo 2014 (UTC)

Bot for scowiki?[usba ang wikitext]

I see you have Lsjbot to create articles on this wiki and other wikis, I was wondering if you'd be able to set it up on scowiki also. What do you think? --AmaryllisGardener (talk) 14:30, 25 Enero 2015 (UTC)

It can be done, if there is consensus for it on scowiki, and if there is a native speaker who can help me translating some key phrases and animal/plant names. Lsj (talk) 15:29, 25 Enero 2015 (UTC)
Ok, I might start an RfC, so I might get back to you in about a month. --AmaryllisGardener (talk) 23:19, 25 Enero 2015 (UTC)
The RfC was successful (See here), what now? --AmaryllisGardener (talk) 16:48, 25 Pebrero 2015 (UTC)

Deletion request[usba ang wikitext]

Good day, Lsj! Since you are the most active admin so far in this wiki, can I request for the deletion of the following pages? I suspect that these were created by a cross-wiki vandal named Bertrand101 who is already banned in the English Wikipedia.

Thanks. theenjay36 07:54, 1 Oktubre 2015 (UTC)

Done. Lsj (talk) 08:24, 1 Oktubre 2015 (UTC)
  • Hi, can you delete this? Thank you. Meiræ (talk) 22:31, 16 Disyembre 2015 (UTC)
Done. Lsj (talk) 06:27, 17 Disyembre 2015 (UTC)
  • All files in Kategoriya:GFDL images if they are duplicates of files in Commons. It seems the municipality locator maps are in Commons and the province locator maps not yet. 11:26, 22 Mayo 2016 (UTC)

Your temporary access has expired[usba ang wikitext]

Hello, the temporary access you requested on this wiki has expired. Just to let you know that If you want it back, feel free to make a local announcement and open a new request on stewards' permission request page on Meta-Wiki later. Moreover, if you think the community is big enough to elect a permanent administrator, you can place a local request here for a permanent adminship, so stewards can grant you the permanent access. Please ask me or any other steward if you have any questions. Thank you! --Stryn (talk) 16:04, 1 Hunyo 2016 (UTC)

Bot tag on top of articles[usba ang wikitext]


I'm doing some editing and now and then I remove the bot tag on top of the articles created by the bot. I hope that's fine with you. --Bentong Isles (talk) 05:44, 5 Hulyo 2016 (UTC)

Yes, that is the intended way to use the bot tag - removing it after a human has checked the article. Lsj (talk) 09:26, 6 Hulyo 2016 (UTC)
BTW, do I assume correctly that you are the same Isles who communicated with me on fb yesterday? Lsj (talk) 09:31, 6 Hulyo 2016 (UTC)
Yes. --Bentong Isles (talk) 02:03, 7 Hulyo 2016 (UTC)

Error[usba ang wikitext]

Hi Lsj. There are several pages which needs your attention and intervention to fix errors in title and lead section. I queried DB in Quarry to find them.

--XXN (talk) 12:56, 12 Agosto 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. I can see how it happened, but will take a bit of time to change the code and do a re-run. Lsj (talk) 10:01, 14 Agosto 2016 (UTC)

Bear Brand[usba ang wikitext]

Hello po, ako'y nagtutulong baguhin ang Nestlé Bear Brand para sa nagbabasa ngayon sa Bisaya (cebuano), salamat po! --Cyrus noto3at bulaga (talk) 02:29, 2 Enero 2017 (UTC)

Translation[usba ang wikitext]

Hello, could you please translate Automatic refresh (Automatisk uppdatering) to Cebuano? Thanks -XQV- (talk) 10:55, 8 Enero 2017 (UTC)

Hey, can you translate the bolded sentence? -XQV- (talk) 20:28, 1 Marso 2017 (UTC)

Please pay attention ...[usba ang wikitext]

... on Pitpisit's contribution - s/he's creating many auto-translated pages. The user doesn't hide this fact (in edit summaries), it's very easy to detect pieces of non-Cebuano word collocations in texts. Happy holidays, --Wolverène (talk) 19:11, 13 Enero 2017 (UTC)

Hej Lsj, I've found by chance this thread and, before that, this article: Apiwan Wiriyachai: "and died sa Philippines"? I corrected some other mistakes in 2 articles, but can't translate "and died" into Cebuano because of ceb-0. The articles of Pitpisit are really very small, is this normal here? Your bot's articles are longer, by the way. Gratulation to the second-biggest Wikipedia version now, I think that's mainly your bot's work, also in the third-biggest Wikipedia version, the Swedish one. Hälsningar --Bjarlin (talk) 01:44, 18 Enero 2017 (UTC)
Yes, I am aware of Pitpisit (talk⧼dot-separator⧽contribs)'s activities. Mixed feelings - while the contributions are of low quality, I really do not want to discourage one of the few active editors on cebwp. I try to keep an eye on them instead, and improve them as time permits. Lsj (talk) 09:04, 18 Enero 2017 (UTC)

Thailand[usba ang wikitext]

You are creating a big mess with creating these articles based on the geonames website - there are tons duplicated and wrong entries there, including totally misnamed ones. For example, the administrative centre of Amphoe Phunphin is not named Phunphin but Tha Kham - and adding names with "Amphoe" to the infobox of a town is total nonsense, as those only belong to the district. I have been trying to slowly add the administrative subdivisions of Thailand to Wikidata, which would have been the much better source for automatic articles - these mass-adding of unchecked data creates lot of unneccessary work. Ahoerstemeier (talk) 15:09, 31 Enero 2017 (UTC)

Have you found systematic errors specifically with the Thailand data in Geonames? If so, can you please clarify what the systematic problems are, preferably in form specific enough to do something about. If, for example, the "Amphoe" problem you refer to above is a general problem affecting many articles, it can be fixed easily enough. Lsj (talk) 20:14, 31 Enero 2017 (UTC)
Everything in the category "populated place" is a total mess. In Thailand, there are the following lower administrative units - subdistricts (Tambon, 3rd order subdivision, almost none tagged as such in geonames, 7256 units), administrative villages (Mu Ban, 4th order subdivision, names always starting with "Ban", around 75000, same names used many many times), and local governments (municipalities of different level, often sharing same boundary as a subdistrict, 7776 units). And administrative villages can cluster together more than one settlement, or a bigger settlement can be split into more than one administrative village. All these are munged together in this one category in geonames, some in the wrong category, some with a wrong name, often bogus data. One example of many - Ban Mai is the name of hundreds of administrative villages, the one created as article might refer to Mu 1 of Sathing Mo subdistrict, Singhanakhon district, Songkhla province. The whole subdistrict has a population of 17497, but according to geonames the village has a population of 86,000, maybe the population number of Singhanakhon district was wrongly imported to Ban Mai. It should also be noted that - even though far from being inactive - the Thai Wikipedia is still far from having all of the 3rd order subdivisions covered, let alone the lower ones.
While I personally believe mass-creating articles like this is nonsense, better to put the data in Wikidata and wait for an automatic article creator from the pure data - but if such articles are to be created, they should at least have some relation with reality. If you want my hand-curated lists of the administrative subdivisions of Thailand, they are in XML format at Github. Ahoerstemeier (talk) 14:37, 1 Pebrero 2017 (UTC)
Yes, I see the problem now, thank you for calling attention to it. The "populated place" category in Geonames indeed mostly consists of a lot of "Ban" places. I will remove from cebwp those Ban that have been made into articles (not so many, so far). But in order to make a clean sweep, I will let the bot finish the current run and then do cleanup afterwards. I had a quick look at your xml files, they look like a very valuable source for future work. Lsj (talk) 16:27, 1 Pebrero 2017 (UTC)
Ok, now I have deleted all the "Ban" places that were incorrectly created as populated places. Not that many in cebwiki, actually - while there are indeed a lot in GeoNames, the bot does not blindly copy everything in GeoNames. Will look at the other issues later. Lsj (talk) 20:29, 2 Pebrero 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. When you get to create articles on the Tambon or other units from my XML files, feel free to ask me before (preferred by email) to avoid any misconceptions, as well as to connect those articles with Wikidata in easiest way as I am slowly adding them there with my own bot. Ahoerstemeier (talk) 14:19, 6 Pebrero 2017 (UTC)

Translation help[usba ang wikitext]

Hi, I would like to add the following sentence in Swedish to the Swedish article about Liv and Maddie: In Scandinavia the series was first shown on December 20, 2013 as a sneak peak and later officially premiered on January 24, 2014. Also, I looked and it looks like Playhouse Disney Channel Asia was a legitimate article that didn't need to be deleted. Meanwhile, there are pages histories of iCarly, Teletubbies, Victorious, The Fox and the Hound, SpongeBob SquarePants, and Charlotte's Web that should be restored as well. 17:20, 22 Pebrero 2017 (UTC)

I am no longer active on Swedish Wikipedia, better you ask somebody there, e.g. at sv:Wikipedia:Bybrunnen. Thank you for your work improving many articles on Cebuano Wikipedia. Lsj (talk) 17:56, 22 Pebrero 2017 (UTC)

County -> Kilcoo River[usba ang wikitext]

Is there any reason for this? If there's none, we should probably delete the County article. --Bentong Isles (talk) 05:56, 16 Marso 2017 (UTC)

The reason is that the source GeoNames indicated that "County" is an alternative name for that river. But I agree it should be deleted -- County should be reserved for an article about the administrative unit "county". Lsj (talk) 07:38, 16 Marso 2017 (UTC)

Hello[usba ang wikitext]

Hello imong mahimo sa pagtabang kanako: Canariomys ug Canariomys bravoi.-- 10:17, 23 Marso 2017 (UTC)

Translate In Wikithai[usba ang wikitext]

Please translate article Thai please... [[2]] --Pitpisit (talk) 07:56, 5 Abril 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't know Thai language at all. Lsj (talk) 08:00, 5 Abril 2017 (UTC)

Cebuano encyclopedia books[usba ang wikitext]

Can you read the Encyclopedia of Cebuano book that is made?

I'm not fluent but I understand most of it. My cebuana wife helps as needed. Why do you ask? Lsj (talk) 08:06, 14 Abril 2017 (UTC)

Reaching 5,600,000 articles[usba ang wikitext]

Is your bot will create up to 5,600,000 articles to reach this milestone?

The current geographic bot project will not reach 5,600,000 articles. Future projects may. Lsj (talk) 14:23, 18 Abril 2017 (UTC)
What if will reach to 5,000,000 articles on the same month? (Septemeber)
The bot will likely reach 5 million articles in a few months. September is quite possible. Lsj (talk) 15:42, 29 Mayo 2017 (UTC)
The bot reach 5 million articles, so what to do next?

Children[usba ang wikitext]

Did you have one children of Cebuano-Swedish descent?

I have three. Lsj (talk) 04:50, 19 Abril 2017 (UTC)

European communes[usba ang wikitext]

Hi, I met the work of your bot in Switzerland and Belgium. Creating stubs is a good thing but it should be done more carefully. "Arrondissement" (districts) are called municipyo which is obviously a commune, some names are totally moronic (why not even go further to Place, Canton of the place, District of the place, Department of the place, Region of the place, Country, Europe, Ancient World, Earth, Solar System, Milky Way, 50.00, 45.00)??? When there is homonymy, the names have to be easy as possible and putting several administrative divisions plus coordonates is a total non sense. Also, for every place, you created three articles, one for the homonymy, one for the commune and one for the village head of the commune. It's another nonsense, just creating more homonymies with a content that should be exactly the same as communes are the basic level and no official data give more precise informations. Programming carefully would have taken you just a few minutes but now, we have for months to correct all this mess that gives a bad image of the whole ceb:wp. Have a nice day. Birdie (talk) 10:37, 20 Abril 2017 (UTC)

If you desire a constructive discussion about design choices in the bot code and what to do about choices you disagree with, please refrain from using words like "moronic" or "nonsense". Lsj (talk) 13:12, 20 Abril 2017 (UTC)
Well, I can't find any word linked to intelligence concerning a title such as Neufchâteau (parokya sa Belhika, Wallonia, Province du Luxembourg, lat 49,84, long 5,43). I'll be very glad if you prove me the contrary, I swear. I understand it's robot's work but robots need supervision or they do stupid things as they've no common sense of their own. Let's be clear, I never saw titles so far from Article titles should be recognizable, concise, natural, precise, and consistent (Wikipedia:Article titles). If you disagree with this, then I'll understand why people have fun of ceb:wp, which is very sad as it doesn't encourage people to improve it. Birdie (talk) 15:02, 20 Abril 2017 (UTC)
I repeat: If you desire a constructive discussion about design choices in the bot code and what to do about choices you disagree with, please refrain from insults. You are in violation of WP:Civility. Lsj (talk) 17:57, 20 Abril 2017 (UTC)
You're funny at least. First, these are not insults, second, they're concerning the awful (I keep my opinion as you didn't answer to my request) "work" of a bot which has no feelings so I don't see any link to wp:Civility. Was lsjbot hurt? I'm soooo sorry, please cuddle it a little, I didn't mean to be mean to it. Visibly, you prefer to be famous for flooding wp than for doing any constructive work. I'm happy for you that you're satisfied with these productions that brought you "celebrity". Everyone finds his pride where he can so it's ok for me. Birdie (talk) 18:42, 20 Abril 2017 (UTC)

Correct diacritics[usba ang wikitext]

Hi Lsj. Can you put your bot to fix some Romanian diacritics in bot-created articles (in titles, text and categories)?

  • ã -> ă (Ă)
  • ş Ş -> ș Ș
  • ţ Ţ -> ț Ț

For more details see en:Romanian alphabet#Comma-below (ș and ț) versus cedilla (ş and ţ).

Examples of articles to be corrected: Municipiul Bãileşti, Municipiul Orãştie. --XXN (talk) 13:01, 20 Abril 2017 (UTC)

Can be done. Is this universal so that all cedillas etc should be replaced in all articles about Romania, or are there exceptions? Does it affect other countries than Romania? Moldova? Lsj (talk) 13:11, 20 Abril 2017 (UTC)
Yes, this should be done in all articles about Romania, and Moldova also. Only for these countries; if the bot will go also outside the Robotskapade categories take care to not touch Turkish proper nouns (in Turkish "Ş, ş" is the correct letter). For Moldova I've corrected by hand most of titles, in the article text maybe I ommited some occurences. I've done also few corrections on Geonames, but there is a lot of work to be done and they will need a bot as well. --XXN (talk) 14:11, 20 Abril 2017 (UTC)
Ok, I will fix this as soon as I finish an ongoing bot run correcting another error. Should be straightforward enough, except in cases where article name changes will clash with existing articles. Lsj (talk) 14:15, 20 Abril 2017 (UTC)
Running now. Will take a day or two. Does it look ok? Lsj (talk) 20:37, 20 Abril 2017 (UTC)

Ok, all done now in Romania. Lsj (talk) 16:27, 22 Abril 2017 (UTC)

... and done in Moldova. Lsj (talk) 15:56, 25 Abril 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. Looks ok. --XXN (talk) 11:59, 27 Abril 2017 (UTC)

Bot OK[usba ang wikitext]

Is your bot OK for creating articles?

For specific types of articles, yes. BTW, it would be helpful if you would sign your questions here by adding ~~~~ at the end. Lsj (talk) 07:26, 21 Abril 2017 (UTC)

Tagalog Wikipedia[usba ang wikitext]

It will be reach up to 100,000 articles in Tagalog Wikipedia? --Cyrus noto3at bulaga (talk) 03:41, 22 Abril 2017 (UTC)

That's up to the Tagalog community. If they want bot assistance, they are welcome to ask. Lsj (talk) 08:00, 22 Abril 2017 (UTC)
Lsj, the bost named Maskbot in Tagalog Wikipedia, it will be 100,00 articles in Tagalog Wikipedia, translated from Cebuano to Tagalog. --Cyrus noto3at bulaga (talk) 09:13, 23 Abril 2017 (UTC)
That's great! I wish tlwp good progress with the bot work. Lsj (talk) 14:04, 23 Abril 2017 (UTC)

Tagalog to Cebuano[usba ang wikitext]

Your bot will be translate to my created articles in Tagalog Wikipedia. --Cyrus noto3at bulaga (talk) 09:12, 25 Abril 2017 (UTC)

Lsjbot can produce new images only on Cebuano Wikipedia[usba ang wikitext]

Is your bot can produce up to 31,000 images only on Cebuano Wikipedia?

My bot can add images to wikipedia articles in any language, if images are available at Commons. Lsj (talk) 14:57, 26 Abril 2017 (UTC)

Adding blue text[usba ang wikitext]

Can you add my new Film and TV articles that replace from the red text to blue text?

In order to make the red text blue, you need to write (or translate) the articles that the red text links to. Here is a list of the most common red texts. It might be a good idea if you try to translate some of these. Lsj (talk) 15:18, 30 Abril 2017 (UTC)

Taking a break[usba ang wikitext]

I'm taking a break on Cebuano Wikipedia.

Thank you for all the articles you have produced. Lsj (talk) 05:33, 4 Mayo 2017 (UTC)

Application for Boat Support[usba ang wikitext]

Hi. Your work is great. We do not have this information at all. How can you help us? Best regards, --Cekli829 (talk) 08:19, 5 Mayo 2017 (UTC)

If there is community consensus, I can help you in the same way I am helping Cebuano wikipedia, by creating new articles about geographic places. But I cannot help you in adding info to existing handmade articles, that is not a suitable task for a bot. Lsj (talk) 14:46, 5 Mayo 2017 (UTC)

Cebuano Wikia[usba ang wikitext]

Is there one language (Cebuano) to add a new wiki on Wikia? http://ceb.the-lion-guard.wikia.com/wiki/Unang_Panid

Arab-Israeli conflict[usba ang wikitext]

Can you protect many articles as part of the Arab-Israeli conflict?

I have not noticed any vandalism here connected with this conflict. Lsj (talk) 15:41, 29 Mayo 2017 (UTC)

Templates[usba ang wikitext]

@Lsj, I'd recommend you to protect the Geobox and other highly used templates. Some of the local templates might need improvements, but anyway, at a such usage scale it's better to protect them in order to prevent vandalism and other unwanted changes, which will affect a lot of articles. BTW, among the needed improvements, probably the most necessary thing is making templates get some missing data (in local infoboxes) from Wikidata, for example at least images (P18). --XXN (talk) 01:24, 29 Mayo 2017 (UTC)

Good idea. Thank you for pointing out this vulnerability. I will fix it. Lsj (talk) 15:39, 29 Mayo 2017 (UTC)
Ok, running the bot now to protect these templates. Will do all that are used on more than 100,000 pages. Lsj (talk) 20:35, 4 Hunyo 2017 (UTC)
I added to Geobox and Taxobox functions to get images from Wikidata if here does not exist one (showase: Rîbnița (lungsod)). --XXN (talk) 21:41, 4 Hulyo 2017 (UTC)

More articles in every language[usba ang wikitext]

Can you add more articles in every language except Cebuano or English?

I could, if I were invited to do so. I did add a million articles or so to Waray wikipedia. Lsj (talk) 19:30, 29 Mayo 2017 (UTC)

Twitter account[usba ang wikitext]

Can you sign up your own Twitter account?

I don't use Twitter. Lsj (talk) 04:43, 31 Mayo 2017 (UTC)
  • @Cena Arz please sign your messages posted on talk page(s), by introducing 4 tildes (~~~~) after message. --XXN (talk) 17:06, 31 Mayo 2017 (UTC)

Duplicated disambiguations[usba ang wikitext]

@Lsj, at the moment there are some 400+ duplicated disambiguations pages, detected by such a pattern: "page_title" = "page_title_(pagklaro)" and/or = "page_title_(pagklaro_2)", and all of them being in category "Pagklaro_paghimo_ni_bot", thus are bot-created. Many of them appeared as duplicates after mass renaming pages in order to correct mispelled names with wrong diacritics. Example pages: Borșa_(pagklaro) & Borșa (pagklaro 2). Could you write a script to merge automatically such duplicated disambigs (now I'm talking aonly about these bot-created)? Since they are bot-made, it should be relatively easy to this without major issues; perhaps the only problem is eventually keeping two entries about the same place in the resulting merged page content, but with a proper algorithm, this coould be excluded as well. --XXN (talk) 17:12, 31 Mayo 2017 (UTC)

Ok, I will have a look. If they are exact duplicates, no problem, the bot can merge them. If not exact duplicates, it will be trickier. Lsj (talk) 18:00, 31 Mayo 2017 (UTC)
  • Another series, smaller and easier to resolve: here you can see several tens of disambiguations with such patterns "Condado de (.*)" (in Spannish) and "Comté de (.*)" (in French) for American (U.S.) counties, for which already exists disambiguations in the official (English) language. I think these duplicated disambigs are unnecessary and should be redirected to the pages with English titles. E.g. Comté de Halifax & Condado de HalifaxHalifax County. Any objections, what do you think? XXN (talk) 12:24, 26 Hunyo 2017 (UTC)
BTW (unrelated to the subject of this thread), take a look at this article, there is an error at "Halifax County may sa mosunod nga mga subdibisyon:[...]". XXN (talk) 12:24, 26 Hunyo 2017 (UTC)
Hmmm, that's a weird bug in Halifax County. And I can see that it occurs in several other articles as well. Will have to investigate... No objection to merging the duplicate disambigs. Lsj (talk) 16:41, 3 Hulyo 2017 (UTC)
The error in Halifax County (and a bunch of other articles) is fixed now, though I will need to do another round of cleanup after the current bot run finished. Lsj (talk) 11:46, 10 Agosto 2017 (UTC)

Merge needed: Bangued and Bangued, Abra[usba ang wikitext]

Bangued and Bangued, Abra refer to the same municipality. Your bot created a page for Bangued, not realizing that this already exists at Bangued, Abra. —Seav (talk) 15:57, 3 Hunyo 2017 (UTC)

Ok, done. Lsj (talk) 19:56, 3 Hunyo 2017 (UTC)
Thanks! —Seav (talk) 02:42, 4 Hunyo 2017 (UTC)

Hmmm. The problem seems to be more extensive than it seems. See for example Lal-lo, Cagayan and Lal-lo, which refer to the same municipality. Same with Binangonan, Rizal and Binangonan (munisipyo). I am guessing that municipalities all already previously exist under the title "<municipality name>, <province name>" and your bot created articles for the same municipality under the name "<municipality name>" or "<municipality name> (munisipyo)". —Seav (talk) 02:48, 4 Hunyo 2017 (UTC)

Yes, this may be a general problem. The bot will check for existing articles by name but requires also that the coordinates match -- there are too many places in the world that have the same name. But since the existing municipality articles generally do not have coordinates, they will not have been detected. Lsj (talk) 16:29, 3 Hulyo 2017 (UTC)

Mediawiki:Edittools[usba ang wikitext]

Could you import the Mediawiki:Edittools from enwiki in order to make it easier editing (in wikistyle) on this project? I could enable such a feature just for me via an userscript, but since other users would want also to benefit from it, to not act in an egoistical way I leave here this suggestion ;) --XXN (talk) 12:41, 26 Hunyo 2017 (UTC)

Merge[usba ang wikitext]


Can you please merge Bratslav (lungsod sa Ukranya) and Bratslav? These articles are about the same populated place: the former is more detailed and written by your bot, the latter is older, has the correct name and is connected to Wikidata. Thanks — NickK (talk) 15:32, 3 Hulyo 2017 (UTC)

Done. Lsj (talk) 16:44, 3 Hulyo 2017 (UTC)

Decreasing articles[usba ang wikitext]

What happen if they start to decreasing articles on Cebuano Wikipedia?

False tundras near the borderlines between land and see[usba ang wikitext]

Hi Lsj, don't know if you follow the discussions on svwp, but it has recently been discovered that the climate classification algorithm used by Lsjbot has resulted in that a number of places have been incorrectly classified as having a "tundra climate". I made an overview showing the coordinates of all 31 609 "tundra places" in svwp showing that besides the expected places, like in Canada, a large number of places just at the border between land and see, all around the globe, have been described as having "tundra climate". I just made the same overview for the 66 669 places in cebwp and you can see the result on this map. Something seems to be wrong in the interpretation of the NASA temperature files for places near the land/see border.

Can you say if this "algorithm problem" is limited to the "Tundraklimat" or if it is a general problem that could also have affected other climate types. --Larske (talk) 06:21, 11 Hulyo 2017 (UTC)

Även om jag har lämnat svwp. så förstår jag fortfarande svenska :) Jag följer inte diskussionerna på svwp längre, men jag märker om någon pingar mig.
Har kollat på en handfull av de konstiga tundrorna, t.ex. Pulau Purup som är en tropisk ö utanför Nya Guinea. Enlgit NASAs data har de alla en årsmdeltemperatur på 0 grader, vilket förvisso är tundraklimat, men det är orimligt i det läget. Tydligen glapp i NASAs data för vissa platser, kan vara att deras sätt att mäta marktemperatur inte funkar precis vid stranden. Ute i havet ger NASA inga värden, men jag tog för givet att när de ger värden så är det något vettigt.
Om NASA konsekvent levererar 0 grader som temperatur när det blir fel, så bör alla felen återfinnas bland tundrorna.
Lsj (talk) 17:31, 14 Hulyo 2017 (UTC)
Tack för svaret! (Att jag skrev på engelska var för att jag inte visste om det var ok att skriva på svenska på cebwp, men det är det tydligen).
Vilken temperaturfil är det som Lsjbot har använt? Referensen leder bara till den här indexsidan och där finns det rätt mycket att välja på, men inget med "Årsmedeltemperatur" såvitt jag kan se. Man kan välja "Land surface temperature (day)" eller "Land surface temperature (night)" och sen välja en specifik dag, 8-dagarsperiod eller månad för olika år, men jag hittar ingen datafil för "årsmedeltemperatur". Tacksam för lite orienteringshjälp på NASA-sajten.
--Larske (talk) 19:37, 16 Hulyo 2017 (UTC)
Varken svenska eller engelska är ju för all del "hemmaspråk" på cebwp. På den lokala motsvarigheten till Bybrunnen vore svenska olämpligt, men på min diskussionssida spelar det ingen roll.
Nej, jag hittade inte heller något färdigt dataset med årsmedeltemperatur. Årsmedeltemperaturen är istället beräknad genom att ta "Land surface temperature (day)" och "(night)" per månad ett visst år (2015), dra ifrån motsvarande Temperature Anomaly för att få ett långtidsmedelvärde per månad, och sedan ta medelvärde över årets 12 månader. Dataset: [3], [4], [5], [6]. Lsj (talk) 10:18, 17 Hulyo 2017 (UTC)

Øland[usba ang wikitext]

Strange name, shouldn't it be da:Nørrejyske Ø? Det finns en socken Øland tillika fd ö som nu hänger ihop med da:Nørrejyske Ø. Se da:Øster_Han_Herred, som verkar vara en rimlig förklaring (rimligare än de tidigare lsjbot-missarna jag har hittat). --Per W (talk) 20:36, 16 Hulyo 2017 (UTC) PS Kul att det finns intresse för din bot.

Ja, det är ett bot-misstag. Algoritmen för att identifiera öar funkar inte för "öar" som inte är öar längre. Flyttat artikeln till Nørrejyske Ø. Lsj (talk) 08:30, 17 Hulyo 2017 (UTC)
Jag förstod det. Rättat det inne i artikeln. Ytterligare ett språk där jag har varit inne i Wikipedia. Nu har jag infinitesimal kunskap i cebuano (mycket liten men dock större än 0). Per W (talk) 09:09, 17 Hulyo 2017 (UTC)

Template needs fixing[usba ang wikitext]

Hello there. We have noticed that Template:climate chart needs some fixes. There are more info and instructions at mw:/Parsing/Replacing_Tidy/FAQ#Delete_OR_fix_badly_nested_tables. (We are communicating often around such changes in Tech News and mailing lists, I don't know how much info reaches users at this wiki though.) Hope this helps, --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 08:35, 20 Hulyo 2017 (UTC) PS: the description of https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T161341 looks relevant. The status of the task does /not/ mean the problem is fixed, it means information was provided around how to do it.

Thank you for the notification. The template at issue is copied from enwp, so presumably the same issue should arise there. I will look into possible fixes when I return from vacation in early August. Right before going away, I don't want to mess around with a template used in a million articles. Lsj (talk) 12:06, 20 Hulyo 2017 (UTC)

Overtaking[usba ang wikitext]

Do you plan to overtake english wikipedia?--KHMELNYTSKYIA (talk) 19:05, 22 Hulyo 2017 (UTC)

Overtaking enwp is not a goal in itself for me. The current project is nearing completion, with perhaps half a million articles remaining. That will bring the total up close to the enwp number. Lsj (talk) 07:38, 29 Hulyo 2017 (UTC)
Let me also ask. As for your opinion what's the future of Cebuano Wikipedia. And what induces you to create articles. --KHMELNYTSKYIA (talk) 13:13, 24 Agosto 2017 (UTC)
Well... easier to answer the second question first. What induces me to create articles is really the Wikipedia vision - making the sum of all human knowledge available to all people. Bot creation of articles is the most efficient method for me to contribute to that goal. It is also a much less biased method than hand creation of articles. There is substantial bias in Wikipedia coverage, reflecting the preponderance of young male western nerds among wikipedia contributors. I wish to level the playing field with the bot.
Concerning Cebuano wikipedia... Cebuano is a major language for spoken discourse, with more speakers than e.g. Dutch or Greek, but there is a regrettable lack of written sources of knowledge. There is no other encyclopedia in Cebuano, to my knowledge. At the same time, Cebuano and other local languages are recently being promoted as languages of instruction in schools in the Cebuano-speaking region. I want Cebuano-speaking students to be able find information in their own language, and encourage their literacy in Cebuano. Hopefully this will encourage young people to continue writing in cebuano, and contributing to Cebuano wikipedia. Lsj (talk) 16:43, 25 Agosto 2017 (UTC)

Interconnecting categories[usba ang wikitext]

Could you interconnect ceb & sv bot-created categories ("robotskapade per country", "%entity% per region", etc.)? I succeeded to automatically match & connect in WD only those dated, + few other manually. --XXN (talk) 00:44, 30 Hulyo 2017 (UTC)

Yes, I can do that. Will take a bit of time, though, as I have to write new bot code to do it. I will do it by inserting oldfashioned interwiki links in the cebwp categories. Lsj (talk) 07:44, 30 Hulyo 2017 (UTC)

Ask for merging[usba ang wikitext]


How can I propose fora merge of the following articles Aber Ildut (suba) and Aber Ildut (bokana) (and maybe Aber Ildut). Well, maybe, it's not exactly a merge, maybe only renaming but there is definitely a confusion here between the Ildut (the river) and the Aber Ildut (the estuary of the river), which are basically the same (I'm not sure there is a need for two articles here).

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 11:21, 4 Agosto 2017 (UTC)

You can insert the template {{merge}} in the articles. Or you can just go ahead and merge the articles, in this case it looks uncontroversial. Lsj (talk) 11:25, 4 Agosto 2017 (UTC)
I've put the template (and on Aber Vrac'h/Estuaire de L'Aberwrac'h). BTW, something seems to be wrong in the link formatting. Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 15:39, 4 Agosto 2017 (UTC)

~Myanmar‎[usba ang wikitext]

Hi. Pay some attention to the situation regarding Myanmar‎. In the recent changes I see that today an user redirected the long-standing Kategoriya:Myanmar to the ~recent bot-made Kategoriya:Burma. The main article about contry (a stub) is named Birmanya and it doesn't mention at all the form "Burma". The bot used widely "Burma" as name for this country and there are some problems: see for example Lashio District - in infobox the link labelled "Burma" with flagicon points correctly to article about country, but in the first sentence it points to Burmā, as the page Burma currently is a redirect to Burmā. If in Cebuano "Burma" is an accepted variant for Myanmar/Birmanya, this should be stated explicitly in the article about country and the page Burma must be redirected to that article, otherwise, it might be necessary to mass-replace in bot-created articles the term "Burma" with Myanmar/Birmanya. Also the categories tree should be adjusted after the country's article name. Regards. --XXN (talk) 12:13, 7 Agosto 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, I hadn't noticed. Will fix it. Seems the name will have to be replaced in all the articles about that country. I believe Birmanya will be the best choice, both because it is used in Cebuano, and because it sidesteps the politics involved in the choice between Burma and Myanmar. Lsj (talk) 19:40, 7 Agosto 2017 (UTC)
Done. Lsj (talk) 16:42, 8 Agosto 2017 (UTC)

You really need to be more discriminating of items from Geonames[usba ang wikitext]

Or you end up creating silly and redundant articles like this: Philippine Islands (kapuloan). —Seav (talk) 19:06, 25 Agosto 2017 (UTC)

Stop[usba ang wikitext]

Hello. Would it be possible to stop your bot? It is creating duplicates by the thousands and we can't cope with them on Wikidata. I would even go as far as saying that we now have a second Earth to deal with because of the numerous items generated by this bot. Therefore, we need a stop, a symbolic relief of about two years that will let us get rid of all the problems it has generated. Can you consider this? With my best respects for trying your best. Thierry Caro (talk) 21:48, 25 Agosto 2017 (UTC)

+1. As I've mentioned above on this talk page, there are a lot of duplicates even here on the Cebuano Wikipedia. I've been merging Wikipedia articles and Wikidata items. —Seav (talk) 07:40, 26 Agosto 2017 (UTC)
The bot project is currently on the last stretch, something like 98% finished. I will stop the bot as soon as the project is complete.
Meanwhile, you might consider pausing whatever other bot is transferring info from cebwp to Wikidata. My bot is not doing any edits at all on Wikidata. Lsj (talk) 08:42, 26 Agosto 2017 (UTC)
I understand that if you're almost finished it would be frustrating to stop it right now, a few thousands items short of completeness. Whatever, we have to do something, possibly together, to solve the problems created. Thierry Caro (talk) 17:56, 27 Agosto 2017 (UTC)

Wrong content for Uni Mannheim[usba ang wikitext]

The content of the page https://ceb.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uni_Mannheim is the same as the page https://ceb.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mannheim_(kapital_sa_distrito) except for the first sentence. AFAS you are not describing the university but the city, which then leads to another Wikidata conflict. Can you please delete the page https://ceb.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uni_Mannheim ? If you are interested University of Mannheim, then I suggest to start with the correct Wikidata page for it: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q317070 --Zuphilip (talk) 09:13, 26 Agosto 2017 (UTC)

No, they are not the same. One article is about a city, the other about a university located in that city. But since the location is basically the same, descriptions of terrain and climate and such will be basically the same. I have merged the duplicate wd items. Lsj (talk) 11:45, 26 Agosto 2017 (UTC)

InternetArchiveBot[usba ang wikitext]

I looked back at the discussion and am still interested in deploying to cebwiki. IABot can still be of benefit no matter how small the wiki is. I already have it on my deployment plans. Do you guys have a bot approvals process?—CYBERPOWER (talk) 07:20, 28 Agosto 2017 (UTC)

BTW, you can easily get my attention by pinging me.—CYBERPOWER (talk) 07:21, 28 Agosto 2017 (UTC)

Translation of WMF's vision to Cebuano[usba ang wikitext]

Hi Lsj, I know that you only have basic knowledge of the Cebuano language but you are the most active user in this wiki. Could you make a translation of the WMF's vision into Cebuano? If you cannot, could you point me to persons who could? Here's the WMF's vision:

Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. That's our commitment.

Thanks in advance. --Jojit fb (talk) 02:49, 31 Agosto 2017 (UTC)

Ping[usba ang wikitext]

Hi, I've been asked to remind you about Hisgot_sa_Gumagamit:Lsj#Template_needs_fixing. Thanks for your attention. --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 15:54, 7 Septiyembre 2017 (UTC)

The instructions for fixing it, mw:/Parsing/Replacing_Tidy/FAQ#Delete_OR_fix_badly_nested_tables, are no longer to be found. Lsj (talk) 17:38, 7 Septiyembre 2017 (UTC)
Found the instructions elsewhere.
But how do I verify that an attempted fix actually fixes the problem? Specifically, does this edit do the job? I'd like to know before I change a few million articles. Lsj (talk) 10:47, 9 Septiyembre 2017 (UTC)